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	<title>Comments on: Bogus Beliefs about Obama; Newspaper Does Only Part of Its Job</title>
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		<title>By: julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Houston Chronicle reports a poll that “finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim” but stops there.&quot;

--&gt; Reading the article, I have to disagree with you. It goes on to say that he is a long-standing Christian, mentions &quot;fallacious Internet rumors and radio talk-show gossip&quot; which cause the &quot;confusion&quot;, and says that the figure is worth noting because it is a higher percentage that Americans overall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Houston Chronicle reports a poll that “finds 23% of Texans think Obama is Muslim” but stops there.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;&gt; Reading the article, I have to disagree with you. It goes on to say that he is a long-standing Christian, mentions &#8220;fallacious Internet rumors and radio talk-show gossip&#8221; which cause the &#8220;confusion&#8221;, and says that the figure is worth noting because it is a higher percentage that Americans overall.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d make it a mission to help ...&quot;

[begin sarcasm]
But, Dan, that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;elitist&lt;/em&gt;. That&#039;s &lt;em&gt;lecturing&lt;/em&gt;. You&#039;re saying YOU KNOW MORE THAN THE READERS. That you&#039;d get up above them, and like a priest lording it over his congregation, tell them they&#039;re wrong and you have the truth! Isn&#039;t that attitude why old media is dying, compared to BLOGS, where, hey, if someone thinks Obama is a Muslim, we&#039;re going to explore that story together with citizen-journalism no matter that the insider liberal Washington dinosaur MSM may try to suppress it!

Wouldn&#039;t the proper Web 2.0 thing be to set up a discussion - &quot;Is Obama A Muslim Terrorist - what do &lt;em&gt;YOU&lt;/em&gt; think?&quot;. Lots of pageviews, for Google Adsense! Also a wiki page &quot;The Obama Muslim Connection&quot;, where the crowd can edit it. With RSS feeds to Twitter each change.

No?
[end sarcasm]

I really shouldn&#039;t do this. It doesn&#039;t do any good :-(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d make it a mission to help &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>[begin sarcasm]<br />
But, Dan, that&#8217;s <em>elitist</em>. That&#8217;s <em>lecturing</em>. You&#8217;re saying YOU KNOW MORE THAN THE READERS. That you&#8217;d get up above them, and like a priest lording it over his congregation, tell them they&#8217;re wrong and you have the truth! Isn&#8217;t that attitude why old media is dying, compared to BLOGS, where, hey, if someone thinks Obama is a Muslim, we&#8217;re going to explore that story together with citizen-journalism no matter that the insider liberal Washington dinosaur MSM may try to suppress it!</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the proper Web 2.0 thing be to set up a discussion &#8211; &#8220;Is Obama A Muslim Terrorist &#8211; what do <em>YOU</em> think?&#8221;. Lots of pageviews, for Google Adsense! Also a wiki page &#8220;The Obama Muslim Connection&#8221;, where the crowd can edit it. With RSS feeds to Twitter each change.</p>
<p>No?<br />
[end sarcasm]</p>
<p>I really shouldn&#8217;t do this. It doesn&#8217;t do any good <img src='http://citmedia.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me update the sentence above: Pew did an Obama-is-muslim study back in June, concluding that Democrats believed the myth as much as Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me update the sentence above: Pew did an Obama-is-muslim study back in June, concluding that Democrats believed the myth as much as Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the DMN has this &lt;a href=&quot;http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/message-to-texa.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Message to Texas: Obama&#039;s not a Muslim&lt;/a&gt;

but, never mind, it&#039;s just a 150-word blog post, not an editorial or anything.

Also, the Chron reported last week on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6078485.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; it doesn&#039;t matter&lt;/a&gt; angle, by interviewing area Muslims.

But with a circulation of 1.2m, it only reaches 10-20% of the voters in the state. So this goes back to our regular argument here Dan: most assuredly, there are limiting returns to how much can be spent to disprove rumors. (aka &quot;you can&#039;t unfool all the people all of the time.&quot;)

The UT poll has yet to cross-tab out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.laits.utexas.edu/txp_media/html/poll/files/200810-summary.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;data&lt;/a&gt; (the press release &lt;a href=&quot;http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/11_1_0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;promised&lt;/a&gt; it would). Pew did &lt;a href=&quot;http://pewresearch.org/pubs/898/belief-that-obama-is-muslim-is-bipartisan-but-most-likely-to-sway-democrats&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an Obama-is-muslim&lt;/a&gt; back in June, concluding

I&#039;d be curious for the UT poll to break down by education/demographics (which they have), and also by media literacy (which they don&#039;t).

and I don&#039;t know why news sites don&#039;t quiz readers more often-- it&#039;s a more fungible interaction, than, say, mudslinging with a bunch of anonymous cowards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the DMN has this <a href="http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/message-to-texa.html" rel="nofollow">Message to Texas: Obama&#8217;s not a Muslim</a></p>
<p>but, never mind, it&#8217;s just a 150-word blog post, not an editorial or anything.</p>
<p>Also, the Chron reported last week on the <a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/6078485.html" rel="nofollow"> it doesn&#8217;t matter</a> angle, by interviewing area Muslims.</p>
<p>But with a circulation of 1.2m, it only reaches 10-20% of the voters in the state. So this goes back to our regular argument here Dan: most assuredly, there are limiting returns to how much can be spent to disprove rumors. (aka &#8220;you can&#8217;t unfool all the people all of the time.&#8221;)</p>
<p>The UT poll has yet to cross-tab out the <a href="http://www.laits.utexas.edu/txp_media/html/poll/files/200810-summary.pdf" rel="nofollow">data</a> (the press release <a href="http://texaspolitics.laits.utexas.edu/11_1_0.html" rel="nofollow">promised</a> it would). Pew did <a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/898/belief-that-obama-is-muslim-is-bipartisan-but-most-likely-to-sway-democrats" rel="nofollow">an Obama-is-muslim</a> back in June, concluding</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious for the UT poll to break down by education/demographics (which they have), and also by media literacy (which they don&#8217;t).</p>
<p>and I don&#8217;t know why news sites don&#8217;t quiz readers more often&#8211; it&#8217;s a more fungible interaction, than, say, mudslinging with a bunch of anonymous cowards.</p>
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