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	<title>Comments on: Stop Training Journalists? Uh, Oh&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Stop Training Journalists? : Institute for the Networked Future (INF)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gillmor criticizes Paul Conley’s article “No More Training” — a plea to employers to stop offering training in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-01-15 : Blogging The News</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Center for Citizen Media: Stop Training Journalists? Uh, Oh… (tags: journalisme) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If journalism was warfare, Paul Conley would probably be right. Stop learning new fighting techniques, dig a hole and hope the war will be over before you get killed (or starve). Despite the parallels, I’m glad they’re not the same.

I agree with your observation – some people need to be introduced to the Web (and Web journalism in particular) to become enthused. A great deal of the old dinosaurs might not become Web reporters overnight, and some will always struggle with the most basic concepts of internet research and writing.

But if we can win one new enthusiastic online journalist out of a group of twenty old-school pros, training has already paid off. Journalism will suffer enormously if we apply Conley’s suggestions as we’d lose many of the most experienced journalists to a potential windfall in reporting quality.

I am a firm believer in formal media training, but we’d be doomed by restricting all teaching to the Young and leave the rest to DIY autodidactic learning.

This might be different in B2B publishing that Paul refers to, but from my experience in ‘standard journalism’ it is much easier to turn a senior print journalist into a Web journalist then to start with a rather young journalist and turn her into an experienced online reporter.

I’m curious to hear what the guys at Poynter have to say about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If journalism was warfare, Paul Conley would probably be right. Stop learning new fighting techniques, dig a hole and hope the war will be over before you get killed (or starve). Despite the parallels, I’m glad they’re not the same.</p>
<p>I agree with your observation – some people need to be introduced to the Web (and Web journalism in particular) to become enthused. A great deal of the old dinosaurs might not become Web reporters overnight, and some will always struggle with the most basic concepts of internet research and writing.</p>
<p>But if we can win one new enthusiastic online journalist out of a group of twenty old-school pros, training has already paid off. Journalism will suffer enormously if we apply Conley’s suggestions as we’d lose many of the most experienced journalists to a potential windfall in reporting quality.</p>
<p>I am a firm believer in formal media training, but we’d be doomed by restricting all teaching to the Young and leave the rest to DIY autodidactic learning.</p>
<p>This might be different in B2B publishing that Paul refers to, but from my experience in ‘standard journalism’ it is much easier to turn a senior print journalist into a Web journalist then to start with a rather young journalist and turn her into an experienced online reporter.</p>
<p>I’m curious to hear what the guys at Poynter have to say about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media &#187; Thursday squibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media &#187; Thursday squibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stop Training Journalists? Uh, Oh… Yesterday, I pointed to Paul Conley&#8217;s provocative post: today Dan Gillmor writes that Paul&#8217;s post should be read, but that he doesn&#8217;t agree. Related: Paul has followed up yesterday&#8217;s post with part two of his Fighting Hole Tactics series. [...]</description>
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