Comments on: Again, Big Media Guy Tries to Make it Bloggers Versus Journalists http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/ Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:33:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Seth Finkelstein http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152447 Seth Finkelstein Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:43:34 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152447 They <em>can</em> be complimentary ... and also not. The elephant in the room is that the "not" is far more attention-driving. They can be complimentary … and also not. The elephant in the room is that the “not” is far more attention-driving.

]]> By: Karl http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152446 Karl Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:59:51 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152446 People *have* learned they are complimentary - in Philadelphia. I've been helping run a mailing list here for the past two years that has brought bloggers and newspaper publisher's together - where real bridges have been built. Karl People *have* learned they are complimentary - in Philadelphia.

I’ve been helping run a mailing list here for the past two years that has brought bloggers and newspaper publisher’s together - where real bridges have been built.

Karl

]]> By: JohnofScribbleSheet http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152442 JohnofScribbleSheet Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:08:16 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152442 Well, this will continue to be the case for a while to come, I suspect. Even the National Union of Journalists in the UK seems to have declared war on blogging and online Journalism. When will people learn they are complimentary. Well, this will continue to be the case for a while to come, I suspect. Even the National Union of Journalists in the UK seems to have declared war on blogging and online Journalism.

When will people learn they are complimentary.

]]> By: NYT’s Keller: Still not quite getting it - - mathewingram.com/media http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152440 NYT’s Keller: Still not quite getting it - - mathewingram.com/media Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:13:13 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152440 [...] Jeff notes — and Dan Gillmor does as well — Keller’s argument is a straw man, designed to pump up traditional journalism at the [...] [...] Jeff notes — and Dan Gillmor does as well — Keller’s argument is a straw man, designed to pump up traditional journalism at the [...]

]]> By: NYT’s Keller: Still not quite getting it - - mathewingram.com/work http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152439 NYT’s Keller: Still not quite getting it - - mathewingram.com/work Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:12:13 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152439 [...] Jeff notes — and Dan Gillmor does as well — Keller’s argument is a straw man, designed to pump up traditional journalism at the [...] [...] Jeff notes — and Dan Gillmor does as well — Keller’s argument is a straw man, designed to pump up traditional journalism at the [...]

]]> By: Jon Garfunkel http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152436 Jon Garfunkel Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:44:01 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152436 Headline from this site, this week: "Traditional Reporters v Bloggers — Who Asks Pols Better Questions" (What does the 'v' stand for there?) Indeed, yes, it's very tough to find someone of high regard in the media field espousing the replacement theory (a la Winer). But there are clearly instances of rhetoric that have echoes of supersessionism, which does encourage the dichotomy. Headline from this site, this week: “Traditional Reporters v Bloggers — Who Asks Pols Better Questions”

(What does the ‘v’ stand for there?)

Indeed, yes, it’s very tough to find someone of high regard in the media field espousing the replacement theory (a la Winer). But there are clearly instances of rhetoric that have echoes of supersessionism, which does encourage the dichotomy.

]]> By:   Le coiffeur citoyen, version US | goudaille http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152435   Le coiffeur citoyen, version US | goudaille Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:26:58 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152435 [...] Bill Keller du Guardian sur le sujet. Dan Gillmor, chantre du journalisme citoyen, y va d’un commentaire qui résume bien cette situation qui fait que plusieurs passent à côté de la question : “Sadly, Keller and other major [...] [...] Bill Keller du Guardian sur le sujet. Dan Gillmor, chantre du journalisme citoyen, y va d’un commentaire qui résume bien cette situation qui fait que plusieurs passent à côté de la question : “Sadly, Keller and other major [...]

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152434 Seth Finkelstein Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:25:53 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/12/02/again-big-media-guy-tries-to-make-it-bloggers-versus-journalists/#comment-152434 "making this a bloggers against professional journalists" BWA-HA-HA! [Oh, why bother, I've been here before, and it's not pleasant :-( ] “making this a bloggers against professional journalists”

BWA-HA-HA!

[Oh, why bother, I've been here before, and it's not pleasant :-( ]

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