Comments on: Google News to Let Subjects of Stories Comment http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/ Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jon Garfunkel http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1783 Jon Garfunkel Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:21:35 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1783 "With the Net, they could have given people the chance to comment in this way..." Hmm. I seem to recall over the last several years a *heavy* emphasis on just getting newspapers to blog, without any particular focus on what I would call "constructive" uses, such as this use case here (allowing sources to respond.) Naturally I endorse Google's announcement of the effort. “With the Net, they could have given people the chance to comment in this way…”

Hmm. I seem to recall over the last several years a *heavy* emphasis on just getting newspapers to blog, without any particular focus on what I would call “constructive” uses, such as this use case here (allowing sources to respond.) Naturally I endorse Google’s announcement of the effort.

]]> By: sabadashus http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1782 sabadashus Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:52:53 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1782 What about THIS news: "Google News to Let Subjects of Stories Comment"?. Can Dan Gilmore comment on it? Can I? sabadashus What about THIS news: “Google News to Let Subjects of Stories Comment”?.

Can Dan Gilmore comment on it? Can I?

sabadashus

]]> By: Delia http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1781 Delia Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:45:00 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1781 Paul: Well, I don't know if I got special treatment or not but Dan had the decency NOT to make me verify my identity... (it would have been a deal breaker...) D. Paul: Well, I don’t know if I got special treatment or not but Dan had the decency NOT to make me verify my identity… (it would have been a deal breaker…) D.

]]> By: Delia http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1780 Delia Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:41:33 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1780 Dan, I'm wondering if they are doing this for *legal* reasons and not journalistic ones -- it looks like it might be a way to get around having to pay for merely aggregating other peoples' content. Would the piece that appears on Google + comments constitute a "critique" of some sort and thus be protected against copyright infringement claims? It seems like that's what the subjects of a report would be doing as far as comments go... Delia P.S. Jay had a somewhat related article a while back and I was wondering back then (http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2007/06/04/currmudgeon_nh.html#comment48119) if Google has considered coming up with a critique of some sort (instead of merely aggregating stuff) and thus be within their rights as far as copyright is concerned. This might be it... D. Dan,

I’m wondering if they are doing this for *legal* reasons and not journalistic ones — it looks like it might be a way to get around having to pay for merely aggregating other peoples’ content.

Would the piece that appears on Google + comments constitute a “critique” of some sort and thus be protected against copyright infringement claims? It seems like that’s what the subjects of a report would be doing as far as comments go…

Delia

P.S. Jay had a somewhat related article a while back and I was wondering back then (http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2007/06/04/currmudgeon_nh.html#comment48119) if Google has considered coming up with a critique of some sort (instead of merely aggregating stuff) and thus be within their rights as far as copyright is concerned. This might be it… D.

]]> By: What? No “Anonymous Cowards”? | Digital Daily | John Paczkowski | AllThingsD http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1779 What? No “Anonymous Cowards”? | Digital Daily | John Paczkowski | AllThingsD Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:26:48 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1779 [...] is, in one sense, testament to an abject failure on the part of traditional news operations,” says Dan Gillmor, Director of the Center for Citizen Media. With the Net, they could have given people the chance to comment in this way — above and beyond [...] [...] is, in one sense, testament to an abject failure on the part of traditional news operations,” says Dan Gillmor, Director of the Center for Citizen Media. With the Net, they could have given people the chance to comment in this way — above and beyond [...]

]]> By: Burningbird » Commenting on Aggregated Items http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1778 Burningbird » Commenting on Aggregated Items Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:07:07 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1778 [...] Media wrote on [...] [...] Media wrote on [...]

]]> By: Scripting News for 8/8/07 « Scripting News Annex http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1777 Scripting News for 8/8/07 « Scripting News Annex Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:04:10 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1777 [...] Dan Gillmor discusses a new Google News feature that’s on the right track, but not the right implementation. Google should just buy Technorati, and get it reliable, and use it in place of this new human-instense feature. Let the people discussed in news articles get blogs, Google can even host them. Let the readers sort it out. Much better than depending on employees. [...] [...] Dan Gillmor discusses a new Google News feature that’s on the right track, but not the right implementation. Google should just buy Technorati, and get it reliable, and use it in place of this new human-instense feature. Let the people discussed in news articles get blogs, Google can even host them. Let the readers sort it out. Much better than depending on employees. [...]

]]> By: Paul Andrews http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1776 Paul Andrews Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:03:42 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1776 I think verification needs to be done, as Dan points out, but then that's the whole mission of the Web these days anyway. This very blog has pretty good verification, and yes, I am the real Paul Andrews ;^) Dave Winer has been suggesting a similar mechanism for years: Newspapers (organizations) giving each source a blog, with comments presumably linked to the originating story. If The New York Times had done this back when Dave first put it to them, I'd agree with Dan, it would have been another way to loyalize (not a word) its readership. Just like if, as some of us oldtimers remember, newspapers had heeded our suggestion to start giving away classifieds when Craiglist first began gaining traction. Sigh... I think verification needs to be done, as Dan points out, but then that’s the whole mission of the Web these days anyway. This very blog has pretty good verification, and yes, I am the real Paul Andrews ;^)

Dave Winer has been suggesting a similar mechanism for years: Newspapers (organizations) giving each source a blog, with comments presumably linked to the originating story. If The New York Times had done this back when Dave first put it to them, I’d agree with Dan, it would have been another way to loyalize (not a word) its readership. Just like if, as some of us oldtimers remember, newspapers had heeded our suggestion to start giving away classifieds when Craiglist first began gaining traction. Sigh…

]]> By: Tish Grier http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/comment-page-1/#comment-1775 Tish Grier Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:05:33 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/08/08/google-news-to-let-subjects-of-stories-comment/#comment-1775 Dan...I'm not sure exactly how much Google *can* pull this off, and to what effect (if not why they want to.) Google News is mostly an aggregator--so if people who are featured in a story that's aggregated on Google news don't like the story, they'll write in to Google News with a correction? I'm not sure how that's going to be of benefit to anyone--except maybe to Google getting some unique free content to beef up their stuff... Guess it's better than adding IntelliTXT ads into AP stories--something FoxNews is doing to create more income for itself. Dan…I’m not sure exactly how much Google *can* pull this off, and to what effect (if not why they want to.) Google News is mostly an aggregator–so if people who are featured in a story that’s aggregated on Google news don’t like the story, they’ll write in to Google News with a correction? I’m not sure how that’s going to be of benefit to anyone–except maybe to Google getting some unique free content to beef up their stuff…

Guess it’s better than adding IntelliTXT ads into AP stories–something FoxNews is doing to create more income for itself.

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