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		<title>By: links for 2007-07-10 at Framtider.net</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-07-10 at Framtider.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1635</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find the no-cost download, either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find the no-cost download, either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 06:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I found the link, but if I post it, WordPress&#039;s bozo filter will force this post to moderation again. Basically I clicked on the name Radley Balko, and then I saw your list of reports, and from there I could access the &lt;i&gt;Overkill&lt;/i&gt; forgive my lack of trying before.

Now that I&#039;ve scanned through the report, I can make a better judgment. Forgive my seemingly flippant remark about 1 in 375, but, being a relative novice to actual crime statistics, I had to check that for myself.

On to the GoogleMap (which, btw, throws a Javascript error on IE6/XP or IE7/Vista). I read through a number of the vignettes in the report, are all very moving. The use of a Google maps mashup, I feel, trivializes the tragedies. It&#039;s great for marketing stuff, but I just don&#039;t feel it works here. a flash-based interactive map would better show the numbers for different levels of government.

To make this story truly connect with readers, I&#039;d suggest two things. One, continuing to push for a live database, and a public awareness campaign (so people know where to file).

Two, we do need &quot;small multiples&quot; in order to escape the mundanity of text. I&#039;d suggest having the ACLU ask its members to volunteer and take photos of victims of botched raids-- by their front doors, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I found the link, but if I post it, WordPress&#8217;s bozo filter will force this post to moderation again. Basically I clicked on the name Radley Balko, and then I saw your list of reports, and from there I could access the <i>Overkill</i> forgive my lack of trying before.</p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve scanned through the report, I can make a better judgment. Forgive my seemingly flippant remark about 1 in 375, but, being a relative novice to actual crime statistics, I had to check that for myself.</p>
<p>On to the GoogleMap (which, btw, throws a Javascript error on IE6/XP or IE7/Vista). I read through a number of the vignettes in the report, are all very moving. The use of a Google maps mashup, I feel, trivializes the tragedies. It&#8217;s great for marketing stuff, but I just don&#8217;t feel it works here. a flash-based interactive map would better show the numbers for different levels of government.</p>
<p>To make this story truly connect with readers, I&#8217;d suggest two things. One, continuing to push for a live database, and a public awareness campaign (so people know where to file).</p>
<p>Two, we do need &#8220;small multiples&#8221; in order to escape the mundanity of text. I&#8217;d suggest having the ACLU ask its members to volunteer and take photos of victims of botched raids&#8211; by their front doors, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1633</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Balko,

Thank you. I was unable to find the link for downloading the full report.
The page that Dan links to goes to here:
http://www.catostore.org/index.asp?fa=ProductDetails&amp;method=cats&amp;scid=15&amp;pid=1441318

which suggests that the only way to get it is to order it. I am not against paying the $10, but I just suppose that, like Dan said, a journalist might be able to make better use of it.

I am not ordinarily a subscriber to the Cato philosophy, and I am fortunate that I live in a part of Boston which does not have many unannounced drug busts-- at least I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; so. I have talked to Dan in the past about improving the live data feeds to enable &quot;realtime reporting.&quot;

I noticed also that the much-lauded ChicagoCrime website does not include botched raids on its map; that is unfortunate as well.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Balko,</p>
<p>Thank you. I was unable to find the link for downloading the full report.<br />
The page that Dan links to goes to here:<br />
<a href="http://www.catostore.org/index.asp?fa=ProductDetails&#038;method=cats&#038;scid=15&#038;pid=1441318" rel="nofollow">http://www.catostore.org/index.asp?fa=ProductDetails&#038;method=cats&#038;scid=15&#038;pid=1441318</a></p>
<p>which suggests that the only way to get it is to order it. I am not against paying the $10, but I just suppose that, like Dan said, a journalist might be able to make better use of it.</p>
<p>I am not ordinarily a subscriber to the Cato philosophy, and I am fortunate that I live in a part of Boston which does not have many unannounced drug busts&#8211; at least I <i>think</i> so. I have talked to Dan in the past about improving the live data feeds to enable &#8220;realtime reporting.&#8221;</p>
<p>I noticed also that the much-lauded ChicagoCrime website does not include botched raids on its map; that is unfortunate as well.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: HearVox News</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>HearVox News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Botched USA Paramilitary Police Raids...&lt;/strong&gt;

Cato Institute has a Google map of SWAT and paramilitary police raids in USA where innocents were harmed: Botched Paramilitary Police Raids, along with their policy paper  &#8220;Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids.&#8221;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Botched USA Paramilitary Police Raids&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Cato Institute has a Google map of SWAT and paramilitary police raids in USA where innocents were harmed: Botched Paramilitary Police Raids, along with their policy paper  &#8220;Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Garfunkel,

Your concerns are addressed in the full report.  And I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;paywall.&quot;  If you want a bound, hard copy of the report, Cato charges $10.  But you can download a copy of the full report for free.

Radley Balko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Garfunkel,</p>
<p>Your concerns are addressed in the full report.  And I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;paywall.&#8221;  If you want a bound, hard copy of the report, Cato charges $10.  But you can download a copy of the full report for free.</p>
<p>Radley Balko</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/07/06/journalistic-map-mashup-by-think-tank/comment-page-1/#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Comments in &lt;i&gt;Reason&lt;/i&gt; request comparison to statistics of non-SWAT raids, as well as to successful raids.

The map shows 296 incidents over 22 years, with 4 in my state. Balko estimates that there are 40,000 false raids-- which sounds alarming, though there &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/persons_arrested/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the number of arrests&lt;/a&gt; in the U.S. is 14 million (!). So for every botched raid, there are 375 arrests. Now, it&#039;s quite likely that certain communities are affected more than others, and that in itself should be cause for alarm. Perhaps that&#039;s in the full report; I don&#039;t know.  Note that the full report is behind the same theoretical &quot;paywall&quot; that the NYT is begrudged for being behind.

Curious what happened at the House Subcommittee hearing on June 21st when Balko spoke...  the last update of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://judiciary.house.gov/committeestructure.aspx?committee=6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;subcommittee page&lt;/a&gt; is from 6/14.

I suppose that one answer could be requiring better data reporting. Remember, one of the consequences of the Rodney King beating was installing cameras in squad cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Comments in <i>Reason</i> request comparison to statistics of non-SWAT raids, as well as to successful raids.</p>
<p>The map shows 296 incidents over 22 years, with 4 in my state. Balko estimates that there are 40,000 false raids&#8211; which sounds alarming, though there <a href="http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/persons_arrested/index.html" rel="nofollow">the number of arrests</a> in the U.S. is 14 million (!). So for every botched raid, there are 375 arrests. Now, it&#8217;s quite likely that certain communities are affected more than others, and that in itself should be cause for alarm. Perhaps that&#8217;s in the full report; I don&#8217;t know.  Note that the full report is behind the same theoretical &#8220;paywall&#8221; that the NYT is begrudged for being behind.</p>
<p>Curious what happened at the House Subcommittee hearing on June 21st when Balko spoke&#8230;  the last update of the <a href="http://judiciary.house.gov/committeestructure.aspx?committee=6" rel="nofollow">subcommittee page</a> is from 6/14.</p>
<p>I suppose that one answer could be requiring better data reporting. Remember, one of the consequences of the Rodney King beating was installing cameras in squad cars.</p>
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