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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/06/30/the-iphone-is-a-beta-product/comment-page-1/#comment-1616</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No such thing as &quot;a specific kind of SIM chip&quot; - I believe -

You said:
&quot;the phone is locked to a specific kind of SIM chip from that carrier only&quot;

The phone is simply locked to your individual SIM card. This locking mechanism is a feature of GSM, a carrier-oriented feature for sure(!), but a feature nevertheless.

Locking the phone to the SIM card is normally the prerogative of the carrier to lock the user in. Locking is used by other carriers, so it is not only an ATT/Apple.
What is being said about ATT not subsidizing iPhone purchases is BS, the fact they were involved in the design of the iPhone is a form of subsidy. Besides, don&#039;t be surprised to see ATT mail-in rebates in a few months when demand subsides and supply is stabilized.

Also, unlocking is normally possible, either via a procedure revealed by the carrier after a period of paying for a calling plan, OR, with some hack. You can then use another SIM card.
Now, according to the following web page, it is legal in the US to hack your phone and unlock it:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/293875_unlock28.html

I believe that in some countries, unlocking after a certain time is even a legal right of the user (e.g. France), so the phone must have the unlocking capability to start with.
And I know for a fact that, at least in France, you can walk into some service shop and have them unlock you phone at any time for 10 to $20 (the carriers don&#039;t like it, but it is legal).

So the question should be: Is the iPhone unlockable in its present version, in the US?
So far, I haven&#039;t seen an answer, but it does&#039;t mean it is not possible.

What I wish to know is:
1- Will AT&amp;T/Apple allow the unlocking after a while using a plan?
2- Will some hack be developed for the iPhone, or can it be unlocked using some generic hack used for other SIM phones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No such thing as &#8220;a specific kind of SIM chip&#8221; &#8211; I believe -</p>
<p>You said:<br />
&#8220;the phone is locked to a specific kind of SIM chip from that carrier only&#8221;</p>
<p>The phone is simply locked to your individual SIM card. This locking mechanism is a feature of GSM, a carrier-oriented feature for sure(!), but a feature nevertheless.</p>
<p>Locking the phone to the SIM card is normally the prerogative of the carrier to lock the user in. Locking is used by other carriers, so it is not only an ATT/Apple.<br />
What is being said about ATT not subsidizing iPhone purchases is BS, the fact they were involved in the design of the iPhone is a form of subsidy. Besides, don&#8217;t be surprised to see ATT mail-in rebates in a few months when demand subsides and supply is stabilized.</p>
<p>Also, unlocking is normally possible, either via a procedure revealed by the carrier after a period of paying for a calling plan, OR, with some hack. You can then use another SIM card.<br />
Now, according to the following web page, it is legal in the US to hack your phone and unlock it:<br />
<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/293875_unlock28.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/293875_unlock28.html</a></p>
<p>I believe that in some countries, unlocking after a certain time is even a legal right of the user (e.g. France), so the phone must have the unlocking capability to start with.<br />
And I know for a fact that, at least in France, you can walk into some service shop and have them unlock you phone at any time for 10 to $20 (the carriers don&#8217;t like it, but it is legal).</p>
<p>So the question should be: Is the iPhone unlockable in its present version, in the US?<br />
So far, I haven&#8217;t seen an answer, but it does&#8217;t mean it is not possible.</p>
<p>What I wish to know is:<br />
1- Will AT&amp;T/Apple allow the unlocking after a while using a plan?<br />
2- Will some hack be developed for the iPhone, or can it be unlocked using some generic hack used for other SIM phones?</p>
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		<title>By: James Bailey</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/06/30/the-iphone-is-a-beta-product/comment-page-1/#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While much of what you say is true, I think the majority of software issues will be resolved quite quickly with the first and/or second software update. I don&#039;t particularly like the locked nature of the phone but like Apple with the music industry and DRM, they can only do so much in the beginning to fix problems endemic to the industry.

Apple will have a solid position in a few years where they can make more demands of the carriers. The only way Apple gets to that position is by having this version of the iPhone be successful. Do you think Apple could have challenged the music industry on DRM without a major success with iTunes?

As for the Wifi problem, I had no issues. Reportedly, a &quot;closed&quot; network (a network that doesn&#039;t transmit SSID) causes problems. Have the friend use WPA security and make the network open and see if that solves the problem. If they don&#039;t have WPA on their WiFi router, there isn&#039;t much point to using a password since it can be cracked in seconds with easily available software.

I had no problems with my home network with both a 802.11b and another 802.11g and the iPhone. I&#039;m getting over 2 Mbit/sec with the WiFi connection.

Also, see the following for more info on setting up iPhone WiFi:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305715
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305711</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While much of what you say is true, I think the majority of software issues will be resolved quite quickly with the first and/or second software update. I don&#8217;t particularly like the locked nature of the phone but like Apple with the music industry and DRM, they can only do so much in the beginning to fix problems endemic to the industry.</p>
<p>Apple will have a solid position in a few years where they can make more demands of the carriers. The only way Apple gets to that position is by having this version of the iPhone be successful. Do you think Apple could have challenged the music industry on DRM without a major success with iTunes?</p>
<p>As for the Wifi problem, I had no issues. Reportedly, a &#8220;closed&#8221; network (a network that doesn&#8217;t transmit SSID) causes problems. Have the friend use WPA security and make the network open and see if that solves the problem. If they don&#8217;t have WPA on their WiFi router, there isn&#8217;t much point to using a password since it can be cracked in seconds with easily available software.</p>
<p>I had no problems with my home network with both a 802.11b and another 802.11g and the iPhone. I&#8217;m getting over 2 Mbit/sec with the WiFi connection.</p>
<p>Also, see the following for more info on setting up iPhone WiFi:<br />
<a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305715" rel="nofollow">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305715</a><br />
<a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305711" rel="nofollow">http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305711</a></p>
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		<title>By: dotMobi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dotMobi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Does the iPhone keep dotMobi awake at night?...&lt;/strong&gt;

We&#039;ve had a number of questions (and seen plenty of commentary) regarding the recent launch of the iPhone and how it might affect us and the mobile web in general I posted some of initial ideas on this very blog...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Does the iPhone keep dotMobi awake at night?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had a number of questions (and seen plenty of commentary) regarding the recent launch of the iPhone and how it might affect us and the mobile web in general I posted some of initial ideas on this very blog&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Develops.mobi &#187; Does the iPhone keep dotMobi awake at night?</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/06/30/the-iphone-is-a-beta-product/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Develops.mobi &#187; Does the iPhone keep dotMobi awake at night?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] users. Not because it&#8217;s an especially great phone (I believe it is, although not without its flaws). Not because it&#8217;s doing anything other handsets elsewhere haven&#8217;t done before, or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] users. Not because it&#8217;s an especially great phone (I believe it is, although not without its flaws). Not because it&#8217;s doing anything other handsets elsewhere haven&#8217;t done before, or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Top 6 Reasons Not To Buy iPhone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 6 Reasons Not To Buy iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sites need CSS adjustment to work great with iPhones. Dan Gillmore justifies why iPhone is just a beta product. He points out the lock-in with AT&amp;T service, usability issues with (password protected)wifi [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sites need CSS adjustment to work great with iPhones. Dan Gillmore justifies why iPhone is just a beta product. He points out the lock-in with AT&#38;T service, usability issues with (password protected)wifi [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m holding off buying and iPhone (a) because I&#039;m not that phone-centric to begin with, and (b) I keep thinking about what one of the original iPods looks like compared to an iPod nano today...

These iPhones are going to look really crude, really fast, as both Apple and competitors evolve the (albeit innovative) form over the next 18 months.

I can wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m holding off buying and iPhone (a) because I&#8217;m not that phone-centric to begin with, and (b) I keep thinking about what one of the original iPods looks like compared to an iPod nano today&#8230;</p>
<p>These iPhones are going to look really crude, really fast, as both Apple and competitors evolve the (albeit innovative) form over the next 18 months.</p>
<p>I can wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Jones</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/06/30/the-iphone-is-a-beta-product/comment-page-1/#comment-1610</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too like openness, but I was already stuck with Cingular from a University-wide contract.

Now I have an iPhone after years of Handspring/Visor/Treo/Palm. iPhone is really a very nice Wifi device with a camera, ipod and oh yes a phone on it. In that light it is what it is -- agreeing with all of Dan&#039;s objections -- so much nicer than my 3+ year old Treo despite the beta-ness. I never felt like the Treo was quite out of beta either.

And unlike Dave, I like the interface. It&#039;s magical and intuitive and easy on my older eyes -- the zoom by pinch is just right.

Call me addicted to Beta! I am shamelessly enjoying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too like openness, but I was already stuck with Cingular from a University-wide contract.</p>
<p>Now I have an iPhone after years of Handspring/Visor/Treo/Palm. iPhone is really a very nice Wifi device with a camera, ipod and oh yes a phone on it. In that light it is what it is &#8212; agreeing with all of Dan&#8217;s objections &#8212; so much nicer than my 3+ year old Treo despite the beta-ness. I never felt like the Treo was quite out of beta either.</p>
<p>And unlike Dave, I like the interface. It&#8217;s magical and intuitive and easy on my older eyes &#8212; the zoom by pinch is just right.</p>
<p>Call me addicted to Beta! I am shamelessly enjoying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth de l'Isle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth de l'Isle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the control-freakishness of certain companies:  I have high hopes for the OpenMoko phone[1] from FIC. OpenMoko describes itself as &quot;the world&#039;s first integrated open source[2] mobile communications platform.&quot;  It&#039;s making a pretty good buzz in the free software world.

[1]  http://www.openmoko.com.
[2] http://www.openmoko.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the control-freakishness of certain companies:  I have high hopes for the OpenMoko phone[1] from FIC. OpenMoko describes itself as &#8220;the world&#8217;s first integrated open source[2] mobile communications platform.&#8221;  It&#8217;s making a pretty good buzz in the free software world.</p>
<p>[1]  <a href="http://www.openmoko.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.openmoko.com</a>.<br />
[2] <a href="http://www.openmoko.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.openmoko.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scripting News for 6/30/2007 &#171; Scripting News Annex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scripting News for 6/30/2007 &#171; Scripting News Annex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 00:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Gillmor: &#8220;This feels like a beta product.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan Gillmor: &#8220;This feels like a beta product.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kev &#187; not so gushy on the iphone</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev &#187; not so gushy on the iphone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gillmor has a quick rundown of what he doesn&#8217;t like about the iPhone. He makes some really good points, and the one that I didn&#8217;t realize was that the battery was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gillmor has a quick rundown of what he doesn&#8217;t like about the iPhone. He makes some really good points, and the one that I didn&#8217;t realize was that the battery was [...]</p>
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