Comments on: Oddly Optimistic Journalism Students http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/ Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anna Haynes http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1524 Anna Haynes Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:24:25 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/#comment-1524 "It's always a great opportunity for young people when their elders are confused." - J. Rosen “It’s always a great opportunity for young people when their elders are confused.”
- J. Rosen

]]> By: Davos Newbies » Blog Archive » The US innovation edge http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1523 Davos Newbies » Blog Archive » The US innovation edge Thu, 31 May 2007 23:15:59 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/#comment-1523 [...] Dan Gillmor: “If I am in a position to hire someone, all other things equal, I will absolutely favor someone who’s failed at something interesting — and learned from his or her mistakes — over someone who’s taken the seemingly safe route.” Dan’s comment, typical to the point of banality in the Bay Area, marks one of the clearest cultural differences between the open, risk-taking, entrepreneurial environments of the US and the closed, hidebound business cultures that prevail almost everywhere else. [...] [...] Dan Gillmor: “If I am in a position to hire someone, all other things equal, I will absolutely favor someone who’s failed at something interesting — and learned from his or her mistakes — over someone who’s taken the seemingly safe route.” Dan’s comment, typical to the point of banality in the Bay Area, marks one of the clearest cultural differences between the open, risk-taking, entrepreneurial environments of the US and the closed, hidebound business cultures that prevail almost everywhere else. [...]

]]> By: Delia http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1526 Delia Wed, 30 May 2007 22:08:40 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/#comment-1526 Dan, I'm wondering if J-schools should have some sort of "disclaimers" (just to make sure students know what the realistic expectations are -- they generally spend good money on tuition etc.) D. Dan, I’m wondering if J-schools should have some sort of “disclaimers” (just to make sure students know what the realistic expectations are — they generally spend good money on tuition etc.) D.

]]> By: Dan Gillmor http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1527 Dan Gillmor Wed, 30 May 2007 20:19:42 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/#comment-1527 Good question, and one I'll ask in the future. I actually admire what all of those folks have done. Some are more, uh, demonstrative than others, but all you have to do is watch those idiotic shout-shows on cable news networks to know that the traditional folks are not exactly unwilling to get noisy when given the opportunity. Good question, and one I’ll ask in the future. I actually admire what all of those folks have done. Some are more, uh, demonstrative than others, but all you have to do is watch those idiotic shout-shows on cable news networks to know that the traditional folks are not exactly unwilling to get noisy when given the opportunity.

]]> By: Jon Garfunkel http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1525 Jon Garfunkel Wed, 30 May 2007 04:39:45 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/29/oddly-optimistic-journalism-students/#comment-1525 Well, one can dream. I'm curious, Dan, if you had a chance to ask your students whom they look up to, career-wise. Jason Calacanis or Nick Kristof? Mark Cuban or Michael Lewis? Adrian Holovaty or Dana Priest? Josh Marshall or Charle Savage? Sure Marshall likely has the edge over Savagem who's is figuring out how to go up from getting a Pulitzer at age 31. And Adrian's done teriffic work on presenting data, but Dana Priest grabs the headlines . As for Calacanis and Cubans, the only time most people hear from them is when they shoot their mouth off. You have to consider that the career path these days also includes going from a blogging gig to a paying gig. Well, one can dream.

I’m curious, Dan, if you had a chance to ask your students whom they look up to, career-wise. Jason Calacanis or Nick Kristof? Mark Cuban or Michael Lewis? Adrian Holovaty or Dana Priest? Josh Marshall or Charle Savage?

Sure Marshall likely has the edge over Savagem who’s is figuring out how to go up from getting a Pulitzer at age 31. And Adrian’s done teriffic work on presenting data, but Dana Priest grabs the headlines . As for Calacanis and Cubans, the only time most people hear from them is when they shoot their mouth off.

You have to consider that the career path these days also includes going from a blogging gig to a paying gig.

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