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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1427</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 06:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Macpherson&#039;s response to similar suggestions:

http://foothillcities.blogspot.com/2007/05/india-incident-macpherson-responds.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Macpherson&#8217;s response to similar suggestions:</p>
<p><a href="http://foothillcities.blogspot.com/2007/05/india-incident-macpherson-responds.html" rel="nofollow">http://foothillcities.blogspot.com/2007/05/india-incident-macpherson-responds.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: clark kent</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>clark kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Covering politics is like covering sports; there are so many subtle things happening at meetings that can only be observed by a reporter on the scene.  There would be no way for the overseas stenographer watching on the &#039;net to notice certain people in the audience rumored to have connections with a certain  NFL franchise and to confirm or deny those rumors

What ever happened to getting college journalism and political science students to cover the city council and other government meetings?  I cut my teeth by covering various government meetings as an intern for various newspapers and tv stations.  Didn&#039;t get paid but got class credit, clips and met elected officals on the ground floor of politics who would move on to bigger and better things.  Pasadena does not lack for bright young college students with Caltech, Occidental College and Pasadena City College nearby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Covering politics is like covering sports; there are so many subtle things happening at meetings that can only be observed by a reporter on the scene.  There would be no way for the overseas stenographer watching on the &#8216;net to notice certain people in the audience rumored to have connections with a certain  NFL franchise and to confirm or deny those rumors</p>
<p>What ever happened to getting college journalism and political science students to cover the city council and other government meetings?  I cut my teeth by covering various government meetings as an intern for various newspapers and tv stations.  Didn&#8217;t get paid but got class credit, clips and met elected officals on the ground floor of politics who would move on to bigger and better things.  Pasadena does not lack for bright young college students with Caltech, Occidental College and Pasadena City College nearby.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I invited everyone I could find that had a frequently updated blog-like website. Many of us knew each other somewhat already -- some of us knew each other only online and some of us had met before. I did not know that James planned to hire writers from India before I read about it on Topix, which linked to the AP story. The picnic was more about eating deviled eggs and cupcakes and petting dogs and getting to know each other as people. I would not expect anyone to disclose anything about their future business plans in a setting like that. Sure, it would have been neat to have talked about it there if James had wanted to talk about it, but it&#039;s not something I would expect or demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invited everyone I could find that had a frequently updated blog-like website. Many of us knew each other somewhat already &#8212; some of us knew each other only online and some of us had met before. I did not know that James planned to hire writers from India before I read about it on Topix, which linked to the AP story. The picnic was more about eating deviled eggs and cupcakes and petting dogs and getting to know each other as people. I would not expect anyone to disclose anything about their future business plans in a setting like that. Sure, it would have been neat to have talked about it there if James had wanted to talk about it, but it&#8217;s not something I would expect or demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 04:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested more in community building through blogging than in being a journalist. Blogs are tools that can be used in many different ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested more in community building through blogging than in being a journalist. Blogs are tools that can be used in many different ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Outsourcing' no jornalismo &#171; Jornalismo e Comunicação</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>Outsourcing' no jornalismo &#171; Jornalismo e Comunicação</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 23:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] em grande medida o que vai mal na prática do jornalismo dos nossos dias&#8221;. Comentário de Dan Gillmor: &#8220;For the money he’s paying, he could hire local bloggers. They’d do it better, with more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] em grande medida o que vai mal na prática do jornalismo dos nossos dias&#8221;. Comentário de Dan Gillmor: &#8220;For the money he’s paying, he could hire local bloggers. They’d do it better, with more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Garfunkel</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Garfunkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 20:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. There&#039;s two pieces of news here. And both were reported by Jill, a blogger in Pasadena.

One is that Jill doesn&#039;t feel that she as a blogger can do the city hall beat-- and she reports that &quot;Centinel&quot; of the Foothill Cities blog wouldn&#039;t do it either.

Two, Jill took pictures of James MacPherson &lt;a href=&quot;http://eyelevelpasadena.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/first-quarterly-pasadena-bloggers-picnic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at the Pasadena blogger&#039;s picnic&lt;/a&gt; last weekend! I&#039;m awfully curious whether this subject was broached among the friendly blogger banter. (&quot;Hey Jim, what&#039;s new with Pasadena Now?&quot; &quot;Oh, nothing....&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. There&#8217;s two pieces of news here. And both were reported by Jill, a blogger in Pasadena.</p>
<p>One is that Jill doesn&#8217;t feel that she as a blogger can do the city hall beat&#8211; and she reports that &#8220;Centinel&#8221; of the Foothill Cities blog wouldn&#8217;t do it either.</p>
<p>Two, Jill took pictures of James MacPherson <a href="http://eyelevelpasadena.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/first-quarterly-pasadena-bloggers-picnic/" rel="nofollow">at the Pasadena blogger&#8217;s picnic</a> last weekend! I&#8217;m awfully curious whether this subject was broached among the friendly blogger banter. (&#8220;Hey Jim, what&#8217;s new with Pasadena Now?&#8221; &#8220;Oh, nothing&#8230;.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1436</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freelancers are always cheaper than staff reporters. I prefer freelancers who know something about the place they&#039;re covering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freelancers are always cheaper than staff reporters. I prefer freelancers who know something about the place they&#8217;re covering.</p>
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		<title>By: Pasadena Now - following the discussion online &#171; Eye Level Pasadena</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Pasadena Now - following the discussion online &#171; Eye Level Pasadena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to cut costs West Coast Grrly Blather*: Pasadena Weekly Dan Gillmor, Center for Citizen Media Blog: Outsourced Journalism The Doc Searls Weblog: Virtual is free. Being there costs ya. The Curious Capitalist: The Indian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to cut costs West Coast Grrly Blather*: Pasadena Weekly Dan Gillmor, Center for Citizen Media Blog: Outsourced Journalism The Doc Searls Weblog: Virtual is free. Being there costs ya. The Curious Capitalist: The Indian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalistisches Outsourcing &#124; trice.de</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalistisches Outsourcing &#124; trice.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 13:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] aber wohl wahr: Dan Gillmor schreibt, dass eine Nachrichten-Website in Pasadena die Berichterstattung über die [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] aber wohl wahr: Dan Gillmor schreibt, dass eine Nachrichten-Website in Pasadena die Berichterstattung über die [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/05/11/outsourced-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-1435</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 05:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may be having our legs pulled, given that $12K is a lot for something which could probably be bought for much less money even in the US.

But I &quot;like&quot; the reply that bloggers are even cheaper than outsourcing to India! :-) Let&#039;s hear it for unpaid freelancing, err, &quot;citizen journalism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may be having our legs pulled, given that $12K is a lot for something which could probably be bought for much less money even in the US.</p>
<p>But I &#8220;like&#8221; the reply that bloggers are even cheaper than outsourcing to India! <img src='http://citmedia.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Let&#8217;s hear it for unpaid freelancing, err, &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221;.</p>
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