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		<title>By: Rollo</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/04/09/in-blogosphere-honor-should-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>Rollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a very fair reason for people to conceal their identity. Privacy. The alternative is a world in which everything you have ever said can be data-mined with two clicks of a mouse, by anyone, anywhere. Perhaps, just perhaps, I want you guys to read this, but not anyone, anywhere, into an infinite future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very fair reason for people to conceal their identity. Privacy. The alternative is a world in which everything you have ever said can be data-mined with two clicks of a mouse, by anyone, anywhere. Perhaps, just perhaps, I want you guys to read this, but not anyone, anywhere, into an infinite future.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel DiRito</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/04/09/in-blogosphere-honor-should-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel DiRito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is my Easter Bonnet?

While some may see the blogosphere and the behavior of its participants as a new phenomenon, it isn&#039;t difficult to find an appropriate predecessor model. That model is found on the streets of any metropolitan area and it is called traffic and the prevalence of road rudeness...or in its extreme...road rage.

Granted, personal attacks and snark on the internet are not likely to lead to fatalities, but if computers had wheels, it certainly would.

The problem on the highway or the internet isn&#039;t going to be resolved through a badge system. Did anyone attend Easter mass yesterday and witness the value of symbols...no not the crucifix behind the altar or the statue at the entrance; I&#039;m talking about the pretty new Easter outfits...complete with bonnets and bow ties. These are the outfits worn by the same people who also attend Christmas mass every year without fail...and then get into their shiny clean vehicle and race out of the parking lot without ever yielding to the old woman walking to her car that is parked in the back row because she forgot that it was Easter Sunday and foolishly arrived at the same time she does each and every Sunday.

Read more on the relationship between blog civility and Easter Bonnets...here:

http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/web_civility_and_easter_bonnets.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is my Easter Bonnet?</p>
<p>While some may see the blogosphere and the behavior of its participants as a new phenomenon, it isn&#8217;t difficult to find an appropriate predecessor model. That model is found on the streets of any metropolitan area and it is called traffic and the prevalence of road rudeness&#8230;or in its extreme&#8230;road rage.</p>
<p>Granted, personal attacks and snark on the internet are not likely to lead to fatalities, but if computers had wheels, it certainly would.</p>
<p>The problem on the highway or the internet isn&#8217;t going to be resolved through a badge system. Did anyone attend Easter mass yesterday and witness the value of symbols&#8230;no not the crucifix behind the altar or the statue at the entrance; I&#8217;m talking about the pretty new Easter outfits&#8230;complete with bonnets and bow ties. These are the outfits worn by the same people who also attend Christmas mass every year without fail&#8230;and then get into their shiny clean vehicle and race out of the parking lot without ever yielding to the old woman walking to her car that is parked in the back row because she forgot that it was Easter Sunday and foolishly arrived at the same time she does each and every Sunday.</p>
<p>Read more on the relationship between blog civility and Easter Bonnets&#8230;here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/web_civility_and_easter_bonnets.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thoughttheater.com/2007/04/web_civility_and_easter_bonnets.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Setting boundaries for behavior in Social Media at SMOblog</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/04/09/in-blogosphere-honor-should-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-1277</link>
		<dc:creator>Setting boundaries for behavior in Social Media at SMOblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Great takes on the whole mess from Nick Wilson, Jeff Jarvis and Andy Beal. Dan Gilmor as well, who had dipped into similar shark pool a while back.   If you liked this post, please [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Great takes on the whole mess from Nick Wilson, Jeff Jarvis and Andy Beal. Dan Gilmor as well, who had dipped into similar shark pool a while back.   If you liked this post, please [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wood-Lewis</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/04/09/in-blogosphere-honor-should-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wood-Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... I&#039;m saying people should, in most situations on most online venues, NOT conceal their identity.  I think most web 2.0 activity is slanted too far toward scribbling on the toilet stall wall.  Too many comments are obnoxious, some are profane... and occasionally some are profound.  But when they&#039;re signed by &quot;whizboy98&quot; or &quot;Concealed&quot; I feel like I&#039;m just exchanging graffiti.

And to the unfairly oppressed, please use your best judgment (as some great figures of our past have used pen names when warranted), but for most the people most the time to stay concealed?  I see more down- than upside in the long haul.  That&#039;s not how humans do their best work.  Anonymity is a pre-condition to anti-social behavior.

And by &quot;anti-social behavior&quot; I mean things that most people would be ashamed to do in broad daylight in front of people who know them.  I&#039;m not talking about &quot;speaking truth to power&quot; or other social organizing to effect positive change.

In our work with &lt;a&gt;, we&#039;re getting amazing participation rates within neighborhoods.  I think one reason so many people subscribe (20% of Burlington, Vermont in our first seven months) is that they feel safe and known, and they know who else is allowed on their neighborhood forum... only the nearby neighbors.

Reminds me of how I used to bike in traffic when I lived in the big city... like a bike messenger... blowing through red lights, nipping pedestrian toes on the curb, a string of middle fingers in my wake... whatever it took.  Now, in my small city setting, I actually stop at four-way stop signs and wave other people through.  I wish everyone could live in this calmer, friendlier, less anonymous kind of community.  I think the internet is hugely slanted toward the anonymous to everyone&#039;s detriment.

I&#039;ll shush now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; I&#8217;m saying people should, in most situations on most online venues, NOT conceal their identity.  I think most web 2.0 activity is slanted too far toward scribbling on the toilet stall wall.  Too many comments are obnoxious, some are profane&#8230; and occasionally some are profound.  But when they&#8217;re signed by &#8220;whizboy98&#8243; or &#8220;Concealed&#8221; I feel like I&#8217;m just exchanging graffiti.</p>
<p>And to the unfairly oppressed, please use your best judgment (as some great figures of our past have used pen names when warranted), but for most the people most the time to stay concealed?  I see more down- than upside in the long haul.  That&#8217;s not how humans do their best work.  Anonymity is a pre-condition to anti-social behavior.</p>
<p>And by &#8220;anti-social behavior&#8221; I mean things that most people would be ashamed to do in broad daylight in front of people who know them.  I&#8217;m not talking about &#8220;speaking truth to power&#8221; or other social organizing to effect positive change.</p>
<p>In our work with <a>, we&#8217;re getting amazing participation rates within neighborhoods.  I think one reason so many people subscribe (20% of Burlington, Vermont in our first seven months) is that they feel safe and known, and they know who else is allowed on their neighborhood forum&#8230; only the nearby neighbors.</p>
<p>Reminds me of how I used to bike in traffic when I lived in the big city&#8230; like a bike messenger&#8230; blowing through red lights, nipping pedestrian toes on the curb, a string of middle fingers in my wake&#8230; whatever it took.  Now, in my small city setting, I actually stop at four-way stop signs and wave other people through.  I wish everyone could live in this calmer, friendlier, less anonymous kind of community.  I think the internet is hugely slanted toward the anonymous to everyone&#8217;s detriment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll shush now.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is saying people should not conceal their identities. But in general, I take more seriously people who stand behind their own words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is saying people should not conceal their identities. But in general, I take more seriously people who stand behind their own words.</p>
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		<title>By: Concealed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concealed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why shouldn&#039;t people conceal their identity on the Internet?  In real life, their ideas would never be taken seriously if you could see that they are female, or black, or work as a custodian, or that they come from that family from the wrong side of the tracks, or don&#039;t have the same friends as you do.

I say more power to them as they spread their &quot;antisocial&quot; ideas (ie, ideas that go against the loud &quot;real-world&quot; voices of the rich and privileged and powerful).

&quot;Boorish behavior is largely kept in check by the same system that’s been in place since the dawn of humankind… act like a jerk toward the people around you and pay the social price.&quot;

A social price that&#039;s usually too high for the less powerful in society to pay for their honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t people conceal their identity on the Internet?  In real life, their ideas would never be taken seriously if you could see that they are female, or black, or work as a custodian, or that they come from that family from the wrong side of the tracks, or don&#8217;t have the same friends as you do.</p>
<p>I say more power to them as they spread their &#8220;antisocial&#8221; ideas (ie, ideas that go against the loud &#8220;real-world&#8221; voices of the rich and privileged and powerful).</p>
<p>&#8220;Boorish behavior is largely kept in check by the same system that’s been in place since the dawn of humankind… act like a jerk toward the people around you and pay the social price.&#8221;</p>
<p>A social price that&#8217;s usually too high for the less powerful in society to pay for their honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wood-Lewis</title>
		<link>http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/04/09/in-blogosphere-honor-should-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wood-Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it about the internet that has so many people concealing their identity? On most online forums, mail lists, blogs, etc. you have no idea who&#039;s talking. Compared to conventional soapboxes (letters to the editor, watercooler, public meetings, etc.), this is a big change.

I guess folks are concerned about identity theft to a degree. But it&#039;s likely more a case of scale. It&#039;s hard to be anonymous in a village of 1,000 inhabitants, but it&#039;s easy to disappear into the crowd in New York City. And most of the internet is more like NYC than Mayberry.

Nasty anonymous online behavior appears to be increasing and is getting more attention in the mainstream media.

It&#039;s no wonder... anonymity can breed antisocial behavior. Like wearing a mask in a crowd... fun to blow off some steam at Mardi Gras or a Halloween bash... but a little bizarre to keep your face covered year-round at work, on campus, around town. I guess it works for Batman... but he has his own issues.

The neighborhood forums hosted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://frontporchforum.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Front Porch Forum&lt;/a&gt; are limited to residents only. And each message includes the writer&#039;s full name, street, and email address. No masquerade... just straight shooting from the person next door and around the corner. Boorish behavior is largely kept in check by the same system that&#039;s been in place since the dawn of humankind... act like a jerk toward the people around you and pay the social price.

Can this approach be applied more broadly?  More at http://frontporchforum.com/blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it about the internet that has so many people concealing their identity? On most online forums, mail lists, blogs, etc. you have no idea who&#8217;s talking. Compared to conventional soapboxes (letters to the editor, watercooler, public meetings, etc.), this is a big change.</p>
<p>I guess folks are concerned about identity theft to a degree. But it&#8217;s likely more a case of scale. It&#8217;s hard to be anonymous in a village of 1,000 inhabitants, but it&#8217;s easy to disappear into the crowd in New York City. And most of the internet is more like NYC than Mayberry.</p>
<p>Nasty anonymous online behavior appears to be increasing and is getting more attention in the mainstream media.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder&#8230; anonymity can breed antisocial behavior. Like wearing a mask in a crowd&#8230; fun to blow off some steam at Mardi Gras or a Halloween bash&#8230; but a little bizarre to keep your face covered year-round at work, on campus, around town. I guess it works for Batman&#8230; but he has his own issues.</p>
<p>The neighborhood forums hosted by <a href="http://frontporchforum.com" rel="nofollow">Front Porch Forum</a> are limited to residents only. And each message includes the writer&#8217;s full name, street, and email address. No masquerade&#8230; just straight shooting from the person next door and around the corner. Boorish behavior is largely kept in check by the same system that&#8217;s been in place since the dawn of humankind&#8230; act like a jerk toward the people around you and pay the social price.</p>
<p>Can this approach be applied more broadly?  More at <a href="http://frontporchforum.com/blog" rel="nofollow">http://frontporchforum.com/blog</a></p>
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