Comments on: Us, not You http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/ Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Community Guy http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-905 Community Guy Sun, 24 Dec 2006 13:54:45 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-905 <strong>RANT: Bloggers morph into Jack Black....</strong> Bloggers turn into Jack Black in High Fidelity...... RANT: Bloggers morph into Jack Black….

Bloggers turn into Jack Black in High Fidelity……

]]> By: Patrick Herron http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-904 Patrick Herron Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:51:28 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-904 Dan, when they say "you" they really mean it. For Time to embrace an Us it would mean for the Great Dictatorial Eye to embrace its own demise. They thrive on telling Us what it is, what we do, what we think. Dan, when they say “you” they really mean it. For Time to embrace an Us it would mean for the Great Dictatorial Eye to embrace its own demise. They thrive on telling Us what it is, what we do, what we think.

]]> By: The Big Media, The Big Book and the Big School at http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-903 The Big Media, The Big Book and the Big School at Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:43:25 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-903 [...] Compare Doctor of Philosophy Doctor Carroll’s attitude with the Big Media’s attitude: Time’s choice of You! as the person of the year “was a vestige of the magazine’s traditional, royal thinking wherein they told us everything they thought we needed to know (and what to think about it.) Our role: We bought it or didn’t.” This is written by Dan Gillmor in Center for Citizen Media http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/ [...] [...] Compare Doctor of Philosophy Doctor Carroll’s attitude with the Big Media’s attitude: Time’s choice of You! as the person of the year “was a vestige of the magazine’s traditional, royal thinking wherein they told us everything they thought we needed to know (and what to think about it.) Our role: We bought it or didn’t.” This is written by Dan Gillmor in Center for Citizen Media http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/ [...]

]]> By: David http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-902 David Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:42:19 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-902 I interviewed Time Mag's #2 about the POY award and asked him about this. His response "He makes an interesting subtle point. I think “You” just makes more sense, as a form of addressing the audience. “Us” seems to refer to the magazine, and even though we embrace it we are speaking to the reader." More <a href="http://www.newassignment.net/blog/david_cohn/dec2006/19/behind_time_maga" rel="nofollow">here</a> I interviewed Time Mag’s #2 about the POY award and asked him about this. His response “He makes an interesting subtle point. I think “You” just makes more sense, as a form of addressing the audience. “Us” seems to refer to the magazine, and even though we embrace it we are speaking to the reader.”

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]]> By: Delia http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-901 Delia Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:45:35 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-901 Well... Fully agree with Bill&pwb! (just that... I thought I said that *first*...) re: http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-4103 Well… Fully agree with Bill&pwb! (just that… I thought I said that *first*…)
re: http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-4103

]]> By: Bill http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-900 Bill Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:56:37 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-900 I agree with pwb, above, in that Time couldn't state that the person of the year is "we" or "us." It's not a statement on how they view their own position as an old-school media company, it's just that no reader on the planet would see "us" on the cover and not think that Time was celebrating itself! Who here wouldn't see "person of the year: us" and think, "what arrogant a-holes"? Also, even if it is grammatically correct, "we" just looks wrong and has the same major flaw as "us." I've seen a bunch of people proclaiming that Time was making some major "us" vs. "them" statement by using "you." Everyone's overthinking it. Time had no choice in wording. I agree with pwb, above, in that Time couldn’t state that the person of the year is “we” or “us.” It’s not a statement on how they view their own position as an old-school media company, it’s just that no reader on the planet would see “us” on the cover and not think that Time was celebrating itself! Who here wouldn’t see “person of the year: us” and think, “what arrogant a-holes”? Also, even if it is grammatically correct, “we” just looks wrong and has the same major flaw as “us.”

I’ve seen a bunch of people proclaiming that Time was making some major “us” vs. “them” statement by using “you.” Everyone’s overthinking it. Time had no choice in wording.

]]> By: Tonym http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-899 Tonym Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:49:05 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-899 Err, isn't the Man of the Year.... Dave Winer? Its all RSS and isn't he the one to blame for that? Blog on! Err, isn’t the Man of the Year…. Dave Winer?

Its all RSS and isn’t he the one to blame for that?

Blog on!

]]> By: Venture Voice http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-898 Venture Voice Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:35:30 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-898 <strong>The Irony of You...</strong> Setting off a barrage of cutesy opening lines by bloggers, Time Magazine designated "You" as the person of the year. Bloggers responded with begrudging thanks, collective self-congratulations, lessons in semantics and more musings. Triumph! Citizen m... The Irony of You…

Setting off a barrage of cutesy opening lines by bloggers, Time Magazine designated “You” as the person of the year. Bloggers responded with begrudging thanks, collective self-congratulations, lessons in semantics and more musings. Triumph! Citizen m…

]]> By: Mostly Muppet Dot Com http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-897 Mostly Muppet Dot Com Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:24:02 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-897 <strong>I’m Time Magazine’s “Person of the Year”...</strong> Turns out I am the Time’s 2006 “Person of the Year”. To be fair, you are too, especially if you read or write a blog, listen or produce a podcast, edit or consume Wikipedia or watch and create video on YouTube. Pretty much any warm bo... I’m Time Magazine’s “Person of the Year”…

Turns out I am the Time’s 2006 “Person of the Year”.
To be fair, you are too, especially if you read or write a blog, listen or produce a podcast, edit or consume Wikipedia or watch and create video on YouTube.
Pretty much any warm bo…

]]> By: Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2006-12-18 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/comment-page-1/#comment-896 Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2006-12-18 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:22:29 +0000 http://citmedia.org/blog/2006/12/17/us-not-you/#comment-896 [...] Center for Citizen Media: Blog: Us, not You Dan Gillmor på Center for Citizen Media pekar på att det hos Time fortfarande handlar om vi, i medierna som styr, och ni, i publiken som ibland får delta, i stället för oss. (tags: dan_gillmor time center_for_citizen_media person_of_the_year 2006 deltagande_journalistik deltagande_kultur) [...] [...] Center for Citizen Media: Blog: Us, not You Dan Gillmor på Center for Citizen Media pekar på att det hos Time fortfarande handlar om vi, i medierna som styr, och ni, i publiken som ibland får delta, i stället för oss. (tags: dan_gillmor time center_for_citizen_media person_of_the_year 2006 deltagande_journalistik deltagande_kultur) [...]

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